Filed by Zillow, Inc.
Pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933
and deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Corporations: Zillow, Inc.
Commission File No.: 001-35237
Commission File No.: 001-35650
TRANSCRIPT OF SPENCER RASCOFFS AUGUST 6, 2014 APPEARANCE ON CNBC
Jim Cramer: all right. Zillow shares trading slightly lower couple bucks, come on, after reporting mixed quarter results well, mixed if youre a nitpicker. Real estate marketplace is really on fire right now. One of the things that is happening is that they are merging with Trulia. I cant believe how lucky we are to have Mr. Spencer Rascoff here. We often talk about how hes here in spirit a great deal. Spencer, when I interviewed you in the spring, I said, come on, if you cant beat them, join them, go buy Trulia. You said, were going to beat them. What changed?
Spencer Rascoff: Well, ask and you shall receive, Jim. You asked me many, many times why dont you buy Trulia, why dont you buy Trulia? And we now intend to buy Trulia. I think the combination of the companies provides a lot of benefits for employees, and shareholders, and industry participants. Theres no question that there are a lot of cost savings from the two companies combining, and there will be revenue synergies, and so Im super excited about the transaction.
Jim Cramer: One of the things Im concerned about, you have a lot of people signed up, really amazing. Could you run out of inventory to sell?
Spencer Rascoff: We have around 57,000 subscribing real estate agents that buy local advertising from us, but our traffic continues to grow so quickly. We had 89 million unique users last month. So as traffic grows, there are more impressions available to sell. We have lots of impressions available for our agent advertisers.
Jim Cramer: A lot of people at home are saying, wait a second, we see home sales are slowing, we see mortgage numbers, and you do a preapproved mortgage. In reality, youre not levered to that.
Spencer Rascoff: no, whats happening is the consumer is rapidly changing their behavior from shopping for real estate in the newspaper classifieds to the internet and increasingly not even the internet on a desktop machine, but actually to a mobile device. That migration is swamping any macro headwinds. Housing is slowing somewhat, but the user is shifting so quickly to the internet that were benefiting from that.
Carlos Quintanilla: People are looking at visitor growth, desktop decelerating. Is mobile making up for that desktop deceleration?
Spencer Rascoff: more than making up for it. Were now over 200 homes a second on mobile, and when I was on your show three years ago at the IPO, just three years ago, it was 20 homes a second. In three years, thats 10x the mobile growth in three years time. Its astounding whats happening with the mobile devices.
Jim Cramer: One of the things I thought was most interesting, Im from summit, New Jersey, and you did a special call out about a broker, and I just want you to walk people through. This is a precipiting broker which usually means Realogy to me I probably know the broker personally, but you talked about the number of leads that is generated with $ 5,000 a month, and how many lead conversions. I want people to understand why the brokers initially reluctant to use Zillow are now all in.
Spencer Rascoff: agents who advertise with Zillow, they spend money with us and they make a lot of money. I think youre referring to an agent I tweeted about yesterday, who I met at one of our Zillow Summits, which is these local events where we meet hundreds of agent advertisers, and this agent was just telling me, he was thanking me for how much money weve helped him make. And when he gets a Zillow lead, he follows up on it incredibly quickly and he usually converts that lead into a transaction and he makes a lot of money. thats why our ARPA, average revenue per agent is growing so quickly, its now over $300, is what the typical agent is advertising a month.
Jim Cramer: But you know, yelp had good ARPA basically, but they didnt sign on enough new agents. You also didnt sign on as many agents as some thought. How come youre getting a pass on that?
Spencer Rascoff: Well because I think our revenue is growing so quickly. The premier agent revenue growth is up 82% year over year, thats the fourth quarter in a row of accelerating agent advertising revenue. So youre right. We are focusing more on a smaller number of top producing agents who are willing to spend more because they value our audience more, and that means we are we bringing on fewer total subscribers and fewer total advertisers, but at a higher rate. Ill take that tradeoff, and the tradeoff is working, clearly, total revenue from agent advertising continues to grow, with the law of good numbers, its harder to continue to increase your growth rate as your numbers get bigger, but were finding a way to do it on agent advertising.
Carlos Quintanilla: Heres a macro question. Journal does a piece this week on Oklahoma City. People moving there because they are being priced out of the coasts. Somebody wrote this week that the millennial story will be moving not because a job is better in another city, but because the houses are cheaper. Do you think that both of those things are true?
Spencer Rascoff: well, it is true, but theres an anchor around American homeowners which is negative equity. Still around 20% of all Americans with a mortgage are upside down on their loan. And so there may be a job in some fracking state like North Dakota or Oklahoma, but if they are underwater at their house in New Jersey because they bought in 2006, it doesnt matter if theres some better job elsewhere, they cant sell. Thats what keeps job ability lower than wed all like.
Jim Cramer: this preapproved mortgage, people felt that was just dying on the vine, but the numbers there, you revealed that program when you were on the show last time.
Spencer Rascoff: Thats right.
Jim Cramer: how can that be going up in this environment?
Spencer Rascoff: we created the product which is the only place on line now where you get preapproved for a mortgage. The normal preapproval experience is a pretty painful experience; and now online on Zillow Mortgages you can actually get preapproved and have a letter that you can then go and look at houses with. Thats a big deal.
Jim Cramer: I imagine that Trulia, a lot of these things youve put through, for StreetEasy New York, for preapproval, Trulia, and you dont need all that spend, that ad spend that Trulias doing.
Spencer Rascoff: Look, you told me years ago, buy street easy, and we did. Then you said buy Trulia, so whats should we buy next?
Jim Cramer: Ill get to you later, but it doesnt matter, because arent you cohosting the 10 and 11?
Spencer Rascoff: youre cheaper than an M&A investment banker, and your deal flow is better, so you let me know.
Jim Cramer: oh, spencer, thank you. People say Jim, why arent you harder on him? Heres the way we work - stock was at 20, stocks at 140, I save it for the guys whose stock went from 140 to 20. Spencer Rascoff, thank you.
Spencer Rascoff: Thank you.
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Additional Information and Where to Find It
In connection with the proposed transaction, Zillow and Trulia will file a joint proxy statement/prospectus with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the new holding company will file a Registration Statement on Form S-4 with the Securities and Exchange Commission. INVESTORS AND SECURITYHOLDERS ARE URGED TO READ THE REGISTRATION STATEMENT AND JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS (INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS OR SUPPLEMENTS
THERETO) REGARDING THE PROPOSED TRANSACTION WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION. Investors and security holders will be able to obtain free copies of the registration statement and joint proxy statement/prospectus (when they become available) and other documents filed by Zillow and Trulia at the Securities and Exchange Commissions web site at www.sec.gov. Copies of the registration statement and joint proxy statement/prospectus (when they become available) and the filings that will be incorporated by reference therein may also be obtained, without charge, from Zillows website, www.zillow.com, under the heading Investors in the About tab or by contacting Zillow Investor Relations at (206) 470-7137. These documents may also be obtained, without charge, from Trulias website, www.trulia.com, under the tab Investor Relations or by contacting Trulia Investor Relations at (415) 400-7238.
Participants in Solicitation
The respective directors and executive officers of Zillow and Trulia and other persons may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies in respect of the proposed transaction. Information regarding Zillows directors and executive officers is available in its proxy statement filed with the SEC by Zillow on April 17, 2014, and information regarding Trulias directors and executive officers is available in its proxy statement filed with the SEC by Trulia on April 22, 2014. Other information regarding the participants in the proxy solicitation and a description of their direct and indirect interests, by security holdings or otherwise, will be contained in the joint proxy statement/prospectus and other relevant materials to be filed with the SEC (when they become available). These documents can be obtained free of charge from the sources indicated above.